Comments on: “Going out” - three ways to tackle a negative drinking culture http://libertywhinge.com/2008/04/13/going-out-three-ways-to-tackle-a-negative-drinking-culture/ Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:31:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Mon http://libertywhinge.com/2008/04/13/going-out-three-ways-to-tackle-a-negative-drinking-culture/#comment-111 Mon Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:12:22 +0000 http://maderak.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-111 i'm sure we can look forward to a rise in the drinking age to 25, banning of any alcohol beverages above 1% alcohol etc etc introducing more and more bans - punishing those who drink responsibly and follow the regulations of the current govt.. meanwhile those who, in the first place, had a blatant disregard for the laws governing society and the negative effect of their actions on others, will continue their underage abuse of alcohol and violent behaviour... yawn! same old same old - thats our australia! i’m sure we can look forward to a rise in the drinking age to 25, banning of any alcohol beverages above 1% alcohol etc etc introducing more and more bans - punishing those who drink responsibly and follow the regulations of the current govt.. meanwhile those who, in the first place, had a blatant disregard for the laws governing society and the negative effect of their actions on others, will continue their underage abuse of alcohol and violent behaviour… yawn! same old same old - thats our australia!

]]> By: HannahJ http://libertywhinge.com/2008/04/13/going-out-three-ways-to-tackle-a-negative-drinking-culture/#comment-110 HannahJ Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:43:05 +0000 http://maderak.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-110 Until about a month ago, when I got around to investigating the party's position, I had a very low opinion of Libertarians. Then I took a political quiz that placed me squarely in that party. Great post; very practical solutions (although based on the assumption, ever waning, that we can expect a certain % of people to act responsibly. But that's their problem!). Until about a month ago, when I got around to investigating the party’s position, I had a very low opinion of Libertarians. Then I took a political quiz that placed me squarely in that party. Great post; very practical solutions (although based on the assumption, ever waning, that we can expect a certain % of people to act responsibly. But that’s their problem!).

]]> By: Seb http://libertywhinge.com/2008/04/13/going-out-three-ways-to-tackle-a-negative-drinking-culture/#comment-109 Seb Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:57:37 +0000 http://maderak.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-109 I would go one further MK and suggest that any trip to the hospital should cost money, perhaps in a HECS style system. That being said drinkers technically already pay for the "social cost" of drinking by paying extraordinary taxes when they buy their liquor. I often hear the same argument against smokers, but in reality smokers pay more tax on cigarettes than many pay in income tax every year. The best solution I have heard is not so much denying health care under any circumstance but still charging with zero interest for services rendered. The last thing we want to happen is people becoming reluctant to seek health care when they are ill, self induced or not. I would go one further MK and suggest that any trip to the hospital should cost money, perhaps in a HECS style system. That being said drinkers technically already pay for the “social cost” of drinking by paying extraordinary taxes when they buy their liquor. I often hear the same argument against smokers, but in reality smokers pay more tax on cigarettes than many pay in income tax every year.

The best solution I have heard is not so much denying health care under any circumstance but still charging with zero interest for services rendered. The last thing we want to happen is people becoming reluctant to seek health care when they are ill, self induced or not.

]]> By: MK http://libertywhinge.com/2008/04/13/going-out-three-ways-to-tackle-a-negative-drinking-culture/#comment-108 MK Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:44:29 +0000 http://maderak.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-108 Good suggestions, i would also add, charging the drinkers for the cost of the consequences when their habit gets out of hand, like turning up at the emergency room to get their asses saved. If they have money to buy that much booze, then pay for the consequences. Good suggestions, i would also add, charging the drinkers for the cost of the consequences when their habit gets out of hand, like turning up at the emergency room to get their asses saved. If they have money to buy that much booze, then pay for the consequences.

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